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▲Show HN: Garden of Flowers – an archive of pictorial typography before ASCII art (self.__VINEXT_RSC_CHUNKS__=self.__VINEXT_RSC_CHUNKS__||[];self.__VINEXT_RSC_CHUNKS__.push("2:I[\"aadde9aaef29\",[],\"default\",1]\n3:I[\"6e873226e03b\",[],\"Children\",1]\n5:I[\"bc2946a341c8\",[],\"LayoutSegmentProvider\",1]\n6:I[\"6e873226e03b\",[],\"Slot\",1]\n7:I[\"3506b3d116f7\",[],\"ErrorBoundary\",1]\n8:I[\"a9bbde40cf2d\",[],\"default\",1]\n9:I[\"3506b3d116f7\",[],\"NotFoundBoundary\",1]\na:\"$Sreact.suspense\"\n:HL[\"/assets/index-BLEkI_5r.css\",\"style\"]\n")el="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com)

160 points by california-og 4 days ago | 27 comments

contingencies 3 days ago [-]

I noticed Asia is severely underrepresented. This is normal in western collections, but there are exceptions. You should find great examples from China, India, Indonesia, Iran (actually Muslim countries in general), Japan, and Vietnam. Some potential leads on works you haven't catalogued: (1) The collection search site for the Dutch 'Wereldmuseum' in Rotterdam, which houses the state collection (they were the first to Japan). (2) The same for Lisbon's Museu do Oriente. (3) International Dunhuang Project, affiliated with the British Library, which has scanned some of the earliest printed works in Asia with a good digital catalogue, some of which have graphic elements. (4) Musee Guimet, Paris. (5) The Print and Graphic Communication Museum in Lyon. (6) The National Technical Museum in Prague (great printing and photography holdings). (7) Asian art auction records. (8) Should you broaden to sculpture, many of the great Buddhist and Hindu carved stone monuments incorporate text with their form elements, though generally not integrally. (9) Chinese folk arts of paper-cut, embroidery (upholstery/cloth/fashion) and new year folk printed door poster art probably have some exceptional examples, as will some cast bronze sculptures such as temple incense burners.

california-og 3 days ago [-]

Yes, I agree. Thank you for the advice and leads, much appreciated! I will dig into these. The archive is scoped to letterpress only, so that will automatically skew it more towards latin based typographic cultures, but I would like to find more non Latin stuff, especially Arabic. Haven't yet found very good archives for that though.

Some Japanese letterpress works I already have catalogued, and they're amazing:

https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?filters=japan

A recent blogpost by Jacob Filipp has good info on it:

https://jacobfilipp.com/hana-no-shiori/

Unfortunately the Japanese archives that I've found have mostly poor quality microfilms though, which makes further search a bit unmotivating.

jfil 1 days ago [-]

I was going to reach out and share the Japanese type art of the Grand Opera House, but looks like you already found my site :-)

Also check out RTTY art (radio teletype) http://taipeisignalarmy.blogspot.com/2010/09/teletype-art.ht... And Stigmatypie (moving type art, with mostly periods) https://stewf.tumblr.com/post/81162862081/stigmatypie-19th-c...

contingencies 3 days ago [-]

Check London's School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) library too. https://www.soas.ac.uk/soas-library/special-collections

quakeguy 3 days ago [-]

Very nice, i have a book in my library which you’ll find interesting.

Jeremy Adler and Ulrich Ernst

Text als Figur

https://www.amazon.de/Text-als-Figur-Visuelle-Moderne/dp/352...

It is full of pictures like you have collected.

Example:

https://imgur.com/a/mWL4kSs

Sadly it seems this book is rather rare.

california-og 3 days ago [-]

Thank you for this! I had come across it by name before but totally forgot about it until you mentioned it again. I'll have to hunt it down, seems like some antique bookshops have it for a reasonable price.

quakeguy 3 days ago [-]

I have found a pdf, it was on the InternetArchive, but got taken down there. AA has it!

efitz 4 days ago [-]

You should look at some Arabic calligraphy- there is a lot of artistic Arabic calligraphy where passages from the Quran, poetry, and other text are written beautifully as art.

efitz 4 days ago [-]

BTW sorry for my rudeness, I find your project very cool and I love calligraphic type projects. I was so excited that I wanted to share something related to you. :-)

california-og 4 days ago [-]

Heh no worries and thanks! I love Arabic/Islamic calligraphy too, but I've had to leave out all calligraphic forms of text art (calligrammes, micrography, carmina figurata, 17th century european calligraphic art, etc..) out of the archive to keep the scope of the project focused and clear. Otherwise it would take me another 8 years :)

However, there's some arabic letterpress stuff in the archive! https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?filters=arabic I hope to find more, especially the kufic style, but I haven't found many good sources for that kind of stuff yet.

una_usta 4 days ago [-]

This is awesome! A few months ago I got a tattoo of one of the flowers from https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

I’ve been variously told it looks like the sun, a hedgehog, and a lion & I’m kind fond of all those descriptions

Aardwolf 4 days ago [-]

> https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

Wow this is awesome, they had box-drawing characters in 1785!

BugsJustFindMe 3 days ago [-]

Hey, this archive you've put together is extremely impressive. How did you find all of these? Literally keyword search on digital collections?

california-og 3 days ago [-]

Thank you! It has taken me a long time. The two main methods:

1. Text content search with keywords/sentences or people's names. This is the best way, but finding good keywords is hard. 2. Randomly browsing, especially typography trade journals. Internet Archive has all issues of Inland Printer for example. Reading through them I've found many new pictures and keywords to do further searches on.

softgrow 4 days ago [-]

At school studying typing there was a class of 66 all manual typewriters except for the two electrics. If you were good and had some spare time, you were given printed instructions to type particular characters and returns. Sometimes shift into red ink. Do it properly and you got an image. So maybe pre ASCII art?

california-og 4 days ago [-]

Definitely! Take a look at these books:

—Fun with your typewriter by Madge Roemer https://archive.org/details/FunWithTypewriter/mode/thumb

—Artyping by Julius Nelson https://archive.org/details/Artyping-HQ/mode/thumb

—Typewriter Art by Alan Riddell https://archive.org/details/TypewriterArt-AlanRiddell/mode/t...

djmips 3 days ago [-]

I remember being a kid in early 80s typing class and trying to make pictures. Your archive is fantastic.

contingencies 3 days ago [-]

That first one is clearly ASCII art predecessor. Thanks, typing pool, for BBS art!

kevinmiller452 4 days ago [-]

Love this. The 18th century type specimens are gorgeous and it's amazing you pulled them from old digitized books. Do you have plans to add any interactive features like zoom on the images?

california-og 4 days ago [-]

Thank you! If you click on the images, you get a zoomable, full resolution view.

frmfrm 4 days ago [-]

Absolutely incredible, thank you for making this!

frmfrm 4 days ago [-]

Would love to suggest having a way to get the whole archive and metadata to browse locally or mirror, perhaps via a torrent?

mujib77 4 days ago [-]

Unique idea looks good

DonHopkins 3 days ago [-]

So EBCDIC art?

arrowassassin 3 days ago [-]

Nice

phyzix5761 4 days ago [-]

Very cool

faddy67 4 days ago [-]

damn amazing

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roshiya 3 days ago [-]

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