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ryandrake 15 hours ago [-]
I don't get this focus on the technology that's driving the features, over the features themselves.
Maybe I'm just not the typical Linux user anymore, but as a user, when I think about what I want feature-wise from software, I think in terms of concrete features: I want X, Y, and Z new functionality. If the developer can "use AI" to power it, fine. If they use traditional algorithms to power it, also fine. If they use literal sorcery to power it, great, I don't care.
At no point in my life have I ever said "I want technology ABC to power features, but I don't really have in mind what those features might be."
dpoloncsak 13 hours ago [-]
I actually think it's the opposite. The impression I get from the 'average Linux user' is that they want more control over and insight to what their system/programs are doing, whereas AI tends to provide less. I appreciate open-source code because you can see how it works, instead of black-box 'sorcery'
I understand the benefits of abstracting some of these features away for casual users...but even Ubuntu, arguably one of the most 'casual' flavors of Linux, is still geared more towards a 'power user' than your average Joe
throwa356262 16 hours ago [-]
If they can improve the driver situation and make those copilot+ NPU better supported under Linux I am all for it.
But if AI is going to be the new snap, I think more people will switch to Debian despite their ancient kernel and applications.
doubled112 15 hours ago [-]
> ancient kernel and applications
This isn't as big a problem these days. Most people run the latest LTS of Ubuntu. Until a week ago, Ubuntu LTS was OLDER (in kernel and in software) than the latest Debian release.
In between, Ubuntu has the HWE kernels and Debian usually backports them.
throwa356262 15 hours ago [-]
Fair point, but right now latest Ubuntu is on 7.x while latest debian is on 6.19.
Latest AMD ryzen for example works much better on 7.1
doubled112 14 hours ago [-]
7.0.1 has been in Debian experimental for a few days now. Shouldn't be much longer.
mixmastamyk 15 hours ago [-]
Do you need to use testing to get the updated packages?
Has anyone ever seen a person using "context-aware OS" features like Microsoft Recall ?
threecheese 14 hours ago [-]
There was an early product named Rewind.ai (they have pivoted to Limitless Pin) which did essentially the same, I used it frequently - it essentially browser history but for everything you do on your computer, and you’ll get just about the same value as that.
npodbielski 14 hours ago [-]
I barely see people using computers at all.
But it is because I barely see people.
rf15 14 hours ago [-]
well, I guess I left Ubuntu just in time for the inevitable AI enshittification.
I stayed even as Unity and Gnome 3 made the rounds (which I was also unhappy about), but changed a month ago to a European Linux and Desktop Environment.
ss_talha 13 hours ago [-]
Well lets just hope this AI is not a burden on us.
16 hours ago [-]
anthk 17 hours ago [-]
Good. Let the slopwares collapse into themselves, from GNU/Linux, to Hurd (sadly) and Ubuntu.
Trisquel will be damned, but Hyperbola BSD -after Hyperbola GNU- will be like the Phoenix bird.
They're going to be adding a bunch of AI features. They don't have any plan for what the features are, but they will definitely be AI.
This is almost as dumb as rebranding a shoe company as an AI company, or your tea brand as a blockchain brand.
The only clue they have is the incredibly generic "explain system logs". That's it, that's the only AI feature they've come up with so far. What an absolute load.
lunar_rover 16 hours ago [-]
Hopefully they're bringing existing ML features from other systems to Linux.
red-iron-pine 15 hours ago [-]
and what would those features be, exactly?
and why couldn't i just 'apt install' them in myself, if/when i wanted them?
Maybe I'm just not the typical Linux user anymore, but as a user, when I think about what I want feature-wise from software, I think in terms of concrete features: I want X, Y, and Z new functionality. If the developer can "use AI" to power it, fine. If they use traditional algorithms to power it, also fine. If they use literal sorcery to power it, great, I don't care.
At no point in my life have I ever said "I want technology ABC to power features, but I don't really have in mind what those features might be."
I understand the benefits of abstracting some of these features away for casual users...but even Ubuntu, arguably one of the most 'casual' flavors of Linux, is still geared more towards a 'power user' than your average Joe
But if AI is going to be the new snap, I think more people will switch to Debian despite their ancient kernel and applications.
This isn't as big a problem these days. Most people run the latest LTS of Ubuntu. Until a week ago, Ubuntu LTS was OLDER (in kernel and in software) than the latest Debian release.
In between, Ubuntu has the HWE kernels and Debian usually backports them.
Latest AMD ryzen for example works much better on 7.1
But it is because I barely see people.
I stayed even as Unity and Gnome 3 made the rounds (which I was also unhappy about), but changed a month ago to a European Linux and Desktop Environment.
https://arxiv.org/html/2601.05280v2
This is almost as dumb as rebranding a shoe company as an AI company, or your tea brand as a blockchain brand.
The only clue they have is the incredibly generic "explain system logs". That's it, that's the only AI feature they've come up with so far. What an absolute load.
and why couldn't i just 'apt install' them in myself, if/when i wanted them?